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- Well I spend 3 hours calculating and writing this for you
- Lets Assume a good case, Garen (high max hp early game).
- Garen will normally buy sunfire first item. Sunfire costs 2900 Bork costs 3400
- but lets assume you both get them at the same time.
- If your doing ok you could have it by 13 minutes if your farming really well.
- Around that time your lvl 9. Lets assume he is the same lvl.
- At level 9 garen has 1184 hp + 425 hp (from Sunfire) = 1609 max hp.
- Garen also has 47.8 armour + 60 (from sunfire) = 107.8
- Based on that armour we deal 48.123195% of our base physical dmg. (100/(100+107.8))
- The average dmg from Borks 8% current hp proc is 4% of their max hp per auto.
- 4% of 1609 is 64.36 physical damage per auto. That is then reduced by the armour:
- 64.36 x .48123195 = 30.972088 physical dmg per auto ON AVERAGE vs garen..
- Now lets look at gold effiency:
- 40 AD = 35 gold x 40 AD = 1400
- 12% LS = 37.5 gold x 12% LS = 450
- Total Gold Worth: 2475 golds worth for 3400 in-game..
- but wait be can add the on hit dmg during this one case to the calculation
- But it is kinda hard to argue that its worth 25 gold in trynds case.
- 25 gold is base on recurve bows price. It fits for other champs with onhit abilities or when they buy rageblade, but trynd doesnt do that.
- On hit damage cant crit and doesnt make his abilities scale.
- 40 on hit dmg gives him only 40 dmg per aa and wont help his abilities scale.
- Therefor its more fair to place it as half of AD's gold value per stat wouldn't you say?
- At half we imply that the loss to the scaling of abilities is made up by the fact that on hit sometimes does just as much dmg in an auto early game (when you don't crit).
- In other words: **Most of the game it will be worth *less* then half**, but sometimes it will only hurt ability scaling (when you just have bork and happen to not crit)
- So redoing that calculation with half the value 1 AD has (35/2 = 17.5):
- Lets add that to the previous gold total:
- Then lets calculate the items gold effiency:
- 3016.975 / 3400 = 88.7345% gold effient (excluding the active)
- For fun lets calculate it with the old 25 gold value:
- 95.5666% gold effient for other non critting champs (excluding active)
- Some Math about Bork Active:
- When the raw movement speed is greater than 415, there are two soft caps applied:
- The raw speed between 415 and 490 gets multiplied by 80%.
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- T2 Boots = 45
- PD = 17.25 all the time
- PD = 41.4 when in 550 range of an enemy (for reference thats dravens AA range)
- Shiv + PD (In Range) + T2 Boots = 103.65 **without a 90 second cooldown**
- 345 + 103.65 = 448.65 (33.65 movespeed soft capped (80% effective))
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- Bork - 'Steal 25% of targets MS for 3 seconds (90 second cooldown)'
- Assume its garen again, 340 movespeed + 45 from boots = 385 movespeed
- 385 x .75 = 288.75 movespeed
- MS lost = 385 - 288.75 = 96.25 movespeed to steal
- Trynd Raw Movespeed = 390 + 96.25 = 486.25 MS
- Applied Soft Cap: (486.25 - 415) x .8 + 415 = 472.024 movespeed
- Trynd Raw Movespeed with a Zeal item (+5% movespeed)= (390 + 96.25) x 1.05 = 510.5625
- Applied Soft Cap: (510.5625 - 490) x .5 + (490 - 415) x .8 + 415 = 485.28125 Movespeed
- Zeal item gives only +13.25725 movespeed durign bork active instead of normal 17.25
- Calculate how much more movespeed bork active gives you:
- 82.024 (trynd's movespeed gain) + 96.25 (Garen's movespeed loss) = 178.274 extra units gained on garen per second (artifitial movespeed)
- Most of that +178.274 movespeed (from bork active) will be reduced by 50% once you get movespeed from other items.
- How much to you value 178.274 more movespeed early game for 3 seconds that you can use every 90 seconds.
- Bork also delays your late game power from crit since you use 3400 gold early to get a item with little attack speed and no crit.
- Crit does more dmg to squishies then Bork early game, I dont have time to show the math but you can infer that crit will beat it since squishies have low max hp.
- Bork has an annoying build path and you only get teh active and onhit once you finish the item.
- Finishing the bork is harder then most items other champs get (3400 vs 2900 / 2600 for sunfire shiv PD Morm ect.)
- Bork is very weak when not finished and it won't be finished when other champs finish their first item.
- Getting Bork first or early can delay your T2 boots which can be quite negitive).
- Most other finished items dont have an 88.73% gold effiency. Lots are over 100% or close.
- Morm = 112% (not including mana regen passive and grevious wounds). DD is 98.69% effient (without its 15% physical spell vamp and other passives) ER is over 100% too ect.
- I think thats it maybe im forgetting things. Also please excuse typos i am too tired to go back and fix them all.
- KillingSpreeGurk: tbh luc is right better champ wins
- Suhrken earned an S on Jax
- Mr Ring earned an S- on Thresh
- Congratulations! You achieved Mastery Level 4 - Reaper with Kassadin!
- KillingSpreeGurk: champs
- puschu1003: you just suck LMFAO
- Everyone on your team honored a teammate! You got a little extra Honor progress this game.
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- Hypà: unlucky ted bundy
- KillingSpreeGurk: cuz she build randuin
- puschu1003: HAHAHA OUTPLAYED IDIOT
- GSHB AroX: yeah
- KillingSpreeGurk: u were 2 lvls down
- KillingSpreeGurk: and u won
- KillingSpreeGurk: cuz u built randiun dude
- Suhrken
- : ah yes really missed this awesome community
- puschu1003: a champ that requires skill
- puschu1003: and you play
- puschu1003: nonskill
- KillingSpreeGurk: kassadin
- Hypà: I stomped u in sidelane?
- puschu1003: Idk are you
- KillingSpreeGurk: u were 2 lvls down
- puschu1003: no i was 1v2 in lane my dude
- Hypà: I single handedly SHUT YOU DOWN
- puschu1003: admit defeat
- KillingSpreeGurk: wtf r u saying lmao
- puschu1003: with like 7 crits in a row
- KillingSpreeGurk: built randiun
- KillingSpreeGurk: and ur champ won
- KillingSpreeGurk: cuz its bs
- GSHB AroX: i swear
- KillingSpreeGurk: lmfao
- KillingSpreeGurk: think they r good
- KillingSpreeGurk: how pathetic
- Hypà: 20%
- KillingSpreeGurk: 'i won cuz im so good my mechanics are awesome!'
- KillingSpreeGurk: smashing keyboard with broiken champ
- puschu1003: meanwhile something that doesnt require any skill at all
- KillingSpreeGurk: '300APM!!!'
- puschu1003: LMFAOOOO
- puschu1003: for the first 500 game
- puschu1003: youd have
- puschu1003: at best
- KillingSpreeGurk: and meanwhile u have 50% hardstuck
- Hypà: imagine u right click some1, and hit 5 out of 7 crits
- KillingSpreeGurk: rivenmain
- Hypà: with a 20% chance
- puschu1003: even tho you got
- puschu1003: seems like a sad life
- KillingSpreeGurk: sure sure
- Hypà: but u would have actually lost trade
- KillingSpreeGurk: cuz ure pure trash
- puschu1003: if that was true you wouldnt play trynd
- KillingSpreeGurk: u played like a bitch
- KillingSpreeGurk: ofc u lost lane
- puschu1003: beetter players
- KillingSpreeGurk: all u did is afk farm till u could build ur randuins
- puschu1003: youre FUMING
- Hypà: I let wave push into me becasue i cant beat trynd level 1 with bone plate?XDDDDD
- puschu1003: reeee
- puschu1003: reeeee
- KillingSpreeGurk: got hard carried by jax lmao
- Hypà: and i had 2 use ptos
- puschu1003: you lost 1v1 to riven
- Hypà: yeah bro keep being 5/0 2 levels up and losing 2 me
- KillingSpreeGurk: lmao i solo killed her like 3 times
- puschu1003: at the cost of dying to jax cleanup
- Hypà: Iv died 2 times
- puschu1003: admit it
- puschu1003: is
- Hypà: LOOOOOOOL
- KillingSpreeGurk: 2 times then
- KillingSpreeGurk: i stomped her in lane
- puschu1003: IMAGINE CANT COUNT TO 2
- KillingSpreeGurk: u guys didnt lose in 15
- puschu1003: HAHAHAHA
- KillingSpreeGurk: then u bought a randiun
- KillingSpreeGurk: u were lvl 12 me 14
- KillingSpreeGurk: without any brain
- ChasingHappiness: you guys done? just go and 1v1 for money
- Hypà: https://www.thrivetalk.com/7-stages-of-grief/
- KillingSpreeGurk: 7 stages of hardstuck
- KillingSpreeGurk: 1 be rivenmain
- KillingSpreeGurk: 2 be rivenmain
- Hypà: I think the 3rd stage should start 2
- puschu1003: FUUMING
- puschu1003: FUMINGGGGGG
- KillingSpreeGurk: lmao
- KillingSpreeGurk: enjoy ur long stay in low dia
- puschu1003: in a skill matchup
- GSHB AroX: u guys are talking like ur champ
- puschu1003: idk you seem abit
- puschu1003: both of you
- puschu1003: stay stuck nerds
- KillingSpreeGurk: poor riven got shit on in lane and cried rng
- KillingSpreeGurk: she ran to rush randuins
- KillingSpreeGurk: so she could beat me playing like a silver
- puschu1003: if you didnt get rng carried why would an item that reduces RNG DMG
- puschu1003: ?
- puschu1003: ?
- puschu1003: LIBTARD
- KillingSpreeGurk: libtard LMAO
- KillingSpreeGurk: fucking retards man
- KillingSpreeGurk: d4 animals
- KillingSpreeGurk: cant lose lane
- KillingSpreeGurk: without going apeshit
- Hypà: past 2
- puschu1003: you seem angry
- KillingSpreeGurk: u only need to watch 8 more hours of boxbox streams
- KillingSpreeGurk: maybe then u'll have a chance to beat me
- puschu1003: you
- KillingSpreeGurk: before buying a randuin
- puschu1003: out of lane
- Hypà: tryndamere
- puschu1003: and all stages
- KillingSpreeGurk: what?
- Hypà: above
- Hypà: what does it say?
- puschu1003: LOOOST
- puschu1003: LOOSER
- KillingSpreeGurk: it says
- Hypà: THATS WHAT IT SAY
- puschu1003: R
- KillingSpreeGurk: 39 wins 15 losses
- KillingSpreeGurk: what does urs say
- KillingSpreeGurk: ?
- Hypà: I said read the word above
- Hypà: HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA
- puschu1003: a hard time
- puschu1003: AND
- puschu1003: counting
- puschu1003: vertical is
- puschu1003: up
- puschu1003: horizontal is
- puschu1003: sideways friend
- puschu1003: if you were better
- puschu1003: how come youre
- puschu1003: 8-5
- puschu1003: 8-2
- KillingSpreeGurk: cuz she got carried
- KillingSpreeGurk: while my team inted me
- KillingSpreeGurk: are u high
- Hypà: unlucky buddy
- KillingSpreeGurk: or just mentally ill
- Hypà: u can compare 2 me
- KillingSpreeGurk: to a low dia hardstuck?
- puschu1003: are you ok?
- KillingSpreeGurk: god
- Hypà: Ah there it is
- Hypà: that is the 3rd stage
- KillingSpreeGurk: imagine being a low diamond rivenmain
- KillingSpreeGurk: 'im smart and mechanical'
- puschu1003: PLAT
- puschu1003: trynd main
- puschu1003: hahahaha
- puschu1003: only
- KillingSpreeGurk: plat?
- Hypà: i work at bmsboosting.com so u can bargain there
- puschu1003: oh look hes bargaining towards him being diamond
- KillingSpreeGurk: u can lose lane every game
- KillingSpreeGurk: u got this
- puschu1003: late
- KillingSpreeGurk: maybe u can get to d3 50 lp peak
- puschu1003: hahaha
- puschu1003: ?
- puschu1003: upset friend
- puschu1003: its ok we're here for you
- puschu1003: past
- KillingSpreeGurk: ure the only ones that are mad
- KillingSpreeGurk: u got shit on
- Hypà: I have already astronomically DESTROYED your projections
- puschu1003: is everything fine at home, young tryndamere?
- KillingSpreeGurk: poor mechanical and smart player
- KillingSpreeGurk: couldnt manhandle me
- puschu1003: ?
- KillingSpreeGurk: by jax
- puschu1003: in and out of lane
- Hypà: https://gyazo.com/1e565f599141be9a7f9aa12cbf76699d
- KillingSpreeGurk: i completely stomped her
- puschu1003: but you didnt?
- KillingSpreeGurk: yes i did?
- puschu1003: shes 2
- Hypà: Im 8/2 and your 8/5?
- puschu1003: is better
- KillingSpreeGurk: solo killed her 2 times? she was 30cs behind?
- KillingSpreeGurk: ofc
- Hypà: are you a little bit of a dumb dumb my friend?
- puschu1003: i think youre a bit
- KillingSpreeGurk: im delusional? xd
- puschu1003: you can reach
- puschu1003: today
- KillingSpreeGurk: hes the one that got dumpstered
- KillingSpreeGurk: poor rivenmain
- KillingSpreeGurk: lost 1v1
- KillingSpreeGurk: and now he needs to type for 30 misn
- puschu1003: i mean you lost 1v1
- Hypà: ^^^
- puschu1003: ?
- puschu1003: !! youre projecting
- Hypà: yeah ik why are u still even here
- KillingSpreeGurk: i stomped her 1v1 lol
- Hypà: lick my feet and maybe I will forgive you, poor thing
- KillingSpreeGurk: top won easily
- KillingSpreeGurk: if ure that blind